A CONVERSATION WITH THE TWO MARYS
The Two Marys are the combined energies
of Mother Mary and Mary Magdalene
Interviewed/Edited by spiritual Journalist, Joel D. Anastasi
Channeled by Jessie Keener
GREETINGS BELOVEDS, GREETINGS BELOVED JOEL, GREETINGS BELOVED CHANNEL. GREETINGS TO ALL STUDENTS OF THE ASCENSION PROCESS, THE PATH OF THE HEART.
We are the Two Marys entwined in this frequency for the purpose of supporting humanity in the Ascension process. We bring you great tidings of joy today for both of you and the students reading this must understand that if you are hearing these words, if you are reading these words, there are congratulations due. There has been much inner processing going on for everyone concerned. Great cleaning of the unnecessary from the glorious gardens you are growing. Great care and nourishment makes sure that what is essential to grow is being given what’s required.
We have said to you before and we continue to say to you, it is all about doing your inner work to keep the path to your heart open, to keep your flow into your heart free, to keep yourself free from the addiction and glamour of the part of the mind that needs to know or wants to engage in anything but compassion. And students, beloveds, congratulations are given now because you have been earnest in your work.
You have earnestly sought the results of our teaching. You have earnestly turned away from some of the most horrific news of late and have said, now that I know where to send compassion, let me just do that. Do not go into the details, let me just send that entire area compassion while I recharge my compassion for myself.
Most excellent, students, most excellent, beloveds. You have taken the words. You have brought them more into your being. You have allowed the frequency of the healing and the spaces in between the words—for this is the most important part—you have allowed the spaces in between the words to allow great fruits for yourself.
Again, what are these fruits borne of? Compassion. Compassion for self, compassion for the way things are outside of yourself, compassion for the part of you that recognizes that, of course, you are co-creating all these various circumstances that you are having compassion for. So it is as if a tsunami of compassion or a tornado in the most positive and powerful wave of compassion has begun to grow inside of each and every one of you.
That is necessary, beloveds. For if you visualize within yourself the giant whirling that is open, open to the infinite, always receiving more, always gathering more. Can you see that coming into the core of your being? You recognize, yes, this is what I have been doing. I have been correcting myself in my own environment.
I have been doing simple things such as shielding my eyes from the details, such as setting a boundary, such as allowing myself time to restore, such as allowing myself tears of both grief and gratitude. Beloveds, this is the stuff that fuels your Ascension. We shall pause here for a moment for our beloved Joel, indeed, wishes to express some aspects of his full self-expression.
J: Well, if all those things you just described have fueled my ascension, I must be on a rocket for take off.
Two Marys: Indeed, all of you who are gathering before this dissemination of knowledge are indeed on the rocket ship and, as we have said, the true fuel is compassion. Once you start to truly navigate with that, then, of course, you can course correct with ease and utter grace. And in the task for many and most of you, course correction in your life involves enormous suffering and upheaval, giant loss. And as you are now beginning to see, sense and to know, that, indeed, was the old. And within this new you can course correct, indeed, quite powerfully with great potency but with far less of the egoic mania. We use that word intentionally, mania, that you used to experience.
This is the time of great enwholement. This is the time where more and more are awakening to the absolute truth of the period of the heart, the absolute truth that all is God, that everyone and everything is, indeed, God.
Beloveds, you well know and recognize as we speak this to you or as you read this, you recognize the joy and the quickening of gratitude in your heart. For you are seeing it everywhere you look. Yes, you are still noticing the illusion nipping at you, much like little tiny insects, but you are becoming more able to stay neutral and make more intelligent observations with more awareness of what is actually happening versus what your egos are projecting. So, beloveds, the kingdom actually is here. The kingdom is now. And you are beginning to understand the truth of this.
In many ways, as we have said before, there is actually not a need for much more new information. Much of what is happening now through simple practices, through simple pure intention, is the emptying out of the old from your intentions and your practices. Now what is happening is the strengthening of the muscles, so to speak, that already know how to navigate this, the new. That already know, of course, it can be easy. Let me learn how to do it with that ease.
Of course, I can move from point A to point B. And part of the old is nipping at my heels. Ah yes, there can be trauma. Just thinking about it is traumatic. Yet there is a part of yourself that is saying, ah, but I have a better way. I have the way of compassion. And my compassion can even include the childish egoic nature that I still have at times. And I can bring it literally in the bosom of my own charge. Does that resonate, beloved?
Joel: Well sure. You’re talking about that wisdom to lift our eyes so that we’re not just looking at our feet stuck in the muck, that we’re able to see the journey and the path and our vision and the mission and all the rest of it.
Two Marys: Indeed, and so for all concerned who are resonating with this frequency, we wish to give you one of the most joyful symbols that this frequency can ever give you as a symbol, which is, of course, the very birth of the Christ child. Now, take that symbol of that glorious infant fully illuminated, fully of the light, and witness that deep in the jewel of your heart space. That is what we are speaking of. Your compassion is the midwifery. Your compassion is the team that made it possible. Your compassion is the correct use of will that designed the birth of the Christ itself for the highest good and glory of all humanity and, indeed, the highest of the one source.
Now understand, beloveds, that is fully born in your being. Who will give it the strength? Of course, it will be you and your team. Some of them are invisible, some of who will help that child develop strong legs and arms so that navigating and renewing is natural and elegant. Some of the invisible entities are at work right now giving you this information. Others will be members of your soul family. Others will be people we will loosely call husbands, helpers, servers along the way. Witness and behold the child of your heart is fully born. The Christ is awake and fully born within the beloved.
There is no need to ever suspect that that is not true. Now develop the muscles that navigate from there. And they are muscles. They aren’t muscles of force. They are muscles of flexibility. They are muscles that say, I perceive many options and my resonance says they are all beautiful. But my resonance says this one here has the most light for me. Let me proceed there. There’ll be many questions arising for all of you, particularly involving direction. Direction that can be as subtle as, do I keep this relationship with this person/job/business/structure that keeps me very much distracted from giving nourishment to my new Christ Child within me? For a baby has very high needs, at least initially. There are around the clock feedings.
Many of you are having around the clock awakenings, literally awakenings at two to three hour intervals throughout the night. Just like our beloved Mother Mary did for infant Yahweh, the son of God. Around the clock feeding, others coming in assisting. You will need others to assist your physical—the laying on of hands, the energy work, the anointment with essential oils. You will do this for yourselves. You will do this for each other. You will strengthen that beautiful new born within so that it can have the full power that it is destined for. Does this resonate in the depth of your truth, beloved?
Joel: That is so powerful. What a visual, to strengthen the newborn within. That’s exactly the description of what I’m dealing with, where I am.
Two Marys: Indeed, it is bringing great tears of recognition and joy to this beloved channel as well. And here is the utter synchronicity. It is where everyone is on your surface no matter what pedestal you have placed them on. There are only a few who actually have achieved sufficient illumination to hold enormous light space for the ultimate pathway of fluid movement for all of your connections.
Indeed, most of you are still in the state of awe that this is even possible and are very vulnerable and at times fragile such as when that new born requires so much tender coddling and protection from harsher elements.
The harsher elements have been named over and over again, not just by us, but by many sacred beings and by many on your planet that hold leader/guru/mentor positions. The harsher elements are everything from the harsh environmental elements to the radiation elements to the thought elements, to the personal elements of ego that are still toxic, to the foods and the behaviors that are toxic.
So, indeed, the responsibility is quite large. The best part is this: you already have everything it takes. The only requirement is to continue to awaken the light body. The muscles already exist. Your brain capacity already has the pathways. They are just not illuminated. Let us be perfectly clear. It already exists in your structure. It is already there in the junk DNA. One hundred percent of your brain and your heart and your highest heart already exist in the etheric. It is already here now.
Those of you who wish to proceed will proceed with great attention to their breath work, their sound work, their simple movements that are traditional and sacred such as Yoga and Tibetan rites and pastoral structural sacred motions and, of course, meditation, the allowing the mind and the great flowering of the pineal to reveal what aspect of the mystery is literally up for you in that time space.
So great news, beloveds, we have such glad tidings in the aspect of us that is distinct that resonates with humanity. In human terms, from our hearts to yours rejoice. The child is born. It is time to develop that infant into the God/Goddess that you already are. Your structure already exists. No more denying. No more settling and no more playing small as if you were not the Christ born of the one source. Do you understand, beloved?
Joel: I think I have it.
Two Marys: Indeed, we have spoken and your hearts have resonated. It is done and so be it.
Joel: That is probably why I’m feeling, that the next phase of my life, in order for it to unfold in the way it needs to unfold, I must physically take myself there.
Two Marys: Indeed, it is calling you loud and clear, beloved. And once again this channel is having that physical experience of recognizing sacred truth and the recognition of your divine soul print as it unfolds and the joy in her own human heart that she will be allowed to participate in an aspect of this blueprint that you are saying yes to more fully. Of course, it is a way of saying, let me nourish myself. Let me become more potent in my own forward motion, in my own heralding of the truth.
Joel: That feels exactly right. I feel as though Jessie and my energies have been growing together, sort of like our energies are mingling.
That is how I am perceiving it in a way that I don’t need to define but I sense that is really happening. Do you have any observations about that?
Two Marys: Indeed, and it is most beneficial that you have read and enjoyed so thoroughly, Anna, Grandmother of Jesus. (The Marys mentions the communion with others that Anna often refers to in the early part of book on many dimensions—the communion she had with others in the community and other distant masters.) They would be communing, sometimes on the physical, sometimes on the astral in what most would call a dream like state, sometimes in even further dimensions.
This has begun for you. It actually began a long time ago. You are now recognizing a larger and more universal aspect of your communion with this one keynote, Jessie. You are now starting to vibrate with more of the timelessness and the multidimensionality of the connection. That is something you hadn’t really considered before. That the connection itself would give birth to yet a whole other something un-nameable until it unfolds and can be named.
Joel: That’s sort of happening with the whole spiritual experience, isn’t it?
Two Marys: It is indeed. It is truly happening. That is why it is so important that we bring the human element to humanity at this time. For as you get deep in your heart space, as you go deep into the new, as you decide to flex these invisible muscles that are very much required, that is the essence of what is happening. The whole new aspect that is once new and on the other hand familiar.
This aspect of your spiritual connection is literally going through the roof. Many senses, multi sensory perceptions, all kinds of a-ha moments, all sorts of refinements. All sorts of downloads that you do not need to know of, but you will simply think later, that must be a new aspect of myself that I was able to do X, Y and Z with such grace and ease. Much of it will happen as an after thought as you look in the mirror briefly and reflect on what just happened and what you just realized. Indeed, your intelligence is increasing at great speed and that is most empowering.
Joel: It feels like a whole new consciousness and awareness is dawning around the whole spiritual experience. It’s like I had only been scratching the surface and I’m beginning to break through to a much larger and fuller understanding and experience of it all.
Two Marys: Indeed, and does this not make sense? Look at the calendar and the timing of where you are in time, where all of you are in time. It is all, of course, in divine order. There is, indeed, a giant surge of awakening that is occurring.
Joel: That’s wonderful to hear. I’ve sort of been experiencing that on some level. It’s wonderful to talk to members of my soul family to get a reading of what everybody is experiencing. We’re all sort of experiencing in one way or another what you have described.
Two Marys: Indeed, it will read out differently for each and every one of you, but there will be a general consensus that holy WOW. You will discover that you have less and less to say and more and more to simply experience.
Joel: Yes, enough talk.
Two Marys: Indeed, for as your beloved channel has noted in the past, the minute it is spoken it is conceptualized through ego. You will all be extremely pleased to be communing very soon without the language that you have known in the past. You will all be telepathically connecting. It will be joyful. You will be able to disseminate and write it down and discuss it later. But there will be great, great dances of communing and vibrational interaction and you will be deeply, deeply fulfilled by this. The veils are literally disappearing completely. Know this and proceed with your eyes and the eyes of your heart space wide open.
Joel: Well, I welcome this. I have such a hunger for community. What is drawing me is this hunger for community and spiritual community.
Two Marys: Indeed, and there is so much that you and this channel can discuss as far as openings and spaces that she is manifesting and co-manifesting and co-creating already. That will be of great value to you. There is something very magical happening in South Florida. As you well know that time has come. It has taken a long time to get this particular geographical area more “lit up” shall we say.
It has occurred and it is occurring. Part of it needed to happen with the great passing of the multiple hurricanes to humble people, the economic devastation to humble people. Now, if you witness, there is great deep growth in the metaphysical communities that are truly practicing the ways of the heart, the simple communal gatherings of love. Not the stories, not the settling of each other’s stuck ways of being, but the true spiritual communities that are doing serious work. There is so much happening in Florida and South Florida. Yes, there is a giant opportunity for those light workers, light weavers, light warriors.
Joel: I don’t want to make this a conversation about me, but there are a lot of practical steps I have to take to make a move happen, finding a place to be and executing the move. I intend to be very focused on creating the vibration just as you and others have counseled about drawing to me the exact people, circumstances, events, etc. Beyond that do you have any observations or counsel to guide me?
Two Marys: Beloved, it is personal and it is not personal. For if you look even at the symbology of what you talked about, you can easily see that it applies to each and every student on the path who wishes to move.
Know in your heart of hearts the perfect place for you in the next iteration of you already exists. Practice the gratitude daily that it is done. See the light within your state around what you would call home. You do not need to visualize it as a physical structure even. You can simply visualize it even as a beautiful egg such as the home of a baby bird. That is a beautiful symbol.
See it as silver, golden and illuminated fully and let you belong to it and it belong to you, and it already exists in perception. By practicing your daily gratitude, by emotionalizing the feelings, by not only feeling grateful but bringing that gratitude to such a high plane in your being that tears run down your face. There is a lump in your throat and goose bumps on your skin so that you are that perfect spot. You claim it. You know it. You are it. For is not ascension the perfect permanent dwelling? That is the best we can put in language and even that falls short.
Joel: You practically brought tears just with that description.
Two Marys: Indeed, so basically, beloved, to move physically, to practice the physical aspects of finding the correct place to be and letting go of the old, the gathering of power and momentum to physically complete that move requires everything we just spoke of, and then it requires something that you and this channel are getting very adept at. It requires the support and midwifery of other human beings who love you and understand your process. So remember to ask for help at times and to reach out. Know that you will be understood. For anything that you would say, any question that you would ask, any sense of doubt that has come up for your healing will be served by the communing with it with others.
Joel: We discussed the potential life threatening disease of a good friend and the difficulty of anticipating his potential passing. It is painful watching a friend die.
Two Marys: There is no suffering whatsoever involved in the actual releasing of the body. The suffering is the resistance to releasing the body. All of that that everyone endures that does not embrace and surrenders sufficiently, all of that that we as humans have this chronic illusion needs to be cleared out and cleaned up.
Then, of course, once we illuminate that to you, beloveds, do you not see that what there is to do for this person that is not embracing the light of his being yet is to simply do what any human can do which is to pray for that other, to let them know you are praying for them whether they like it or not, that you are holding them into the light and that you in your own humble way acknowledge the greatness of their life and the way they have contributed to you.
Whether you ever send that information to them or not, you ask their higher self to commune with you and you have that gracious moment in time. You acknowledge with great joy in your heart and tears washing the earth the significant contribution they have been for you. That is the way you serve them and your highest good.
Joel: Thank you for that.
Two Marys: Indeed, It is time for humanity to rejoice in watering the Earth with their tears. Your heart is breaking open over and over and over. This channel’s heart is breaking over and over and over. Everyone reading, everyone listening, all of your hearts are breaking over and over and over. Get fantastic at letting yourself tear up at that breaking of the heart.
You will soon find that short releases of tears are followed by great songs of joy, by songs of thanksgiving, Embrace the ancient ways, beloved. This has always been the way, acknowledging the truth of the shattering of the illusion, allowing the tears as you shed that hard shell of the illusion. Let those tears wash that hardness and embrace the soft. I have the strong sense that as everything unfolds that we have been talking about spiritually, all the teachings that we’ve been generating will become more and more relevant.
Two Marys: Indeed, it is absolutely the destiny of all concerned. There are already very large openings that this channel has begun to create for all kinds of realities in South Florida as far as creating group space, larger classrooms, multimedia screens, multimedia presentation capabilities, theatrical type classrooms. So it is all underway, beloved. There will be other spaces connecting within that and you will see that your heart’s desires are quickening and that your actualization skills are strengthening. For that is what we are discussing.
In a very interesting way this channel has been having discussions with other co-creators and their agreement is that reality as a word is fairly ruined because reality as most humans speak of it is actually conceptualization. So what they are tending to choose, rather than the word reality, is the word actuality.
So your actuality is the manifestation of your truth. We will be referring to this from this point on more and more. It is a very important step in the collective consciousness of Ascension that reality sort of being let go of and that your interest level becomes very pronounced with actuality and that will become more understood as you go.
Joel: You’re talking about us being creators.
Two Marys: Creators, immortal, multi-dimensional.
Joel: That’s what our work is all about now.
Two Marys: Indeed, nothing more and nothing less.
Joel: What a wonderful way to bring this discussion to a close. Asked if they had any more to say about anything.
Two Marys: We are complete at this time. As you have noticed, this frequency, this resonance, is a very, very high level discussion. Therefore, we simply wish to remind you, as you review it, as you work with it, as you share it, there is a very high frequency associated with it. That is why at times you could feel your eyes tearing and this channel could experience the same. Understand there has been an enormous download, beloved. Be good to your body. Keep your body hydrated, stay very hydrated and continue to breathe fully and freely.
Joel: Asked about the blog I wrote based on the last discussion having to do with peace in Syria and on Earth. I said the writing is coming easier and asked what they thought of the blog. I pieced together a lot of their teachings and connected them to what was going on in the world. It seemed to create a logical flow. What do you think?
Two Marys: (Laughing.) Beloved, any time that you share with humanity our wisdom it elevates all of everything to the next higher order of integration at some point, level, time/space continuum. Therefore, how could we not be overjoyed in that aspect of us that connects to humanity about such? Of course, we’re overjoyed. And in addition to that, we’re overjoyed that you have stepped into your next actuality.
You have allowed yourself to let go at yet another level so that you can allow your gifts and talents to simply be as you herald in the truth of your being. So that is another development. And so to complete the circle, that is you exercising new muscles that are invisible, yet quite natural and even were already there.
Joel: I want to spend as much time as possible developing and doing that so I truly want to live the rest of my incarnation as joyfully and productively as I can and to contribute, as Jessie I believe wants as well, to be a role model for what all of us can be.
Two Marys: Indeed, so at this time let us all join in gratitude for it is done. It is done. Let us rejoice.
Joel: Thanks so much for this absolutely splendid time together.
Two Marys: Indeed and with one last burst of violet flame into your being we anoint you. We bless you. We bid you peace.